New Who Series

[author_by_night]

Was I the only one who couldn't really get into it?

I think some of it is that I'm tired of the whole thing with Amy and Rory. I like their characters, but... I'm tired of all the domestic drama. On one hand, they were long overdue for issues. I understand why they have them. But... I honestly wish we'd just left off with where Amy was in the last Christmas special. Rumors say they're getting some sad ending anyway. I'd almost rather we just saw different companions again, like Martha.

I don't know, maybe I've also just sort of lost interest altogether. Which is too bad, because I was really into it for a while. I just don't think I have the same enthusiasm. I'd almost rather watch Inspector Spacetime. :P

Comments

[tresjolie9.livejournal.com]

I think a lot of people feel the same way in general about Moffat's tenure on Doctor Who. While RTD wasn't perfect, and had some horrid episodes, at least we still cared about the characters. Moffat hasn't been able to get us to like the characters Rory/Amy, and the storylines are at a point where everything is such a convoluted, complex, timeey wimey mess that people have stopped caring about that as well.

[author-by-night.livejournal.com]

Tne funny thing is that I actually like Amy and Rory well enough, when they're not being given insane storylines. I think you're right that everything turned into a convoluted mess, although RTD kind of started it. I mean, there's no longer any point to aliens being a secret after the entire planet saw themselves being moved and everything. But even though I liked Amy, Rory and even River, I didn't like what was done with their characters, and I don't like what's currently being done. So maybe you're right, a lot of people - myself included - are just a bit weary?

[tresjolie9.livejournal.com]

Things started to deteriorate with RTD, but Moffat hasn't made the show great like I was expecting him to. Durin RTD's era, I couldn't believe that they still tried to keep the "everyone can't know about aliens," thing secret. Considering everything that happened on Doctor Who, not to mention Torchwood and Sarah Jane, they should have just done a storyline where the world knows we aren't alone, is cool with it, and life goes one.

Even if I cared about Amy and Rory, I don't know if I would be able to remain as passionate of a fan after the mess of a storyline they have been given with River being their daughter, and Amy's entire childhood being rewritten because of the Moff'crack.

[chocolatepot.livejournal.com]

I actually got really into it, despite raising an eyebrow at the Forest of the Dead similarity and thinking it might have been less out-of-nowhere if Rory and Amy were shown as having problems in their marriage rather than full-blown divorcing. I might be more tired of the married domestic drama if it weren't for the fact that I find it refreshing/original - the rest of NuWho has been entirely drama between companions and their families (when the drama exists). Since they're leaving I'm not too worried about it getting really old.

It's okay if you don't have the same enthusiasm! I feel like a lot of the wank is because Doctor Who is such a fannish touchstone that people don't want to drift away even when they hate it, as most people do for most shows. I mean, there are of course people who drop various shows over certain changes and continue to really dislike the show/showrunner/actors, but usually I don't see the same kind of "I must keep updated on it and comment on new developments" feeling I see a lot with Who. Which isn't to say you hate it and should stop watching now.

[author-by-night.livejournal.com]

rest of NuWho has been entirely drama between companions and their families (when the drama exists

That is actually a very good point, although it's generally people who don't know about/understand the Doctor. But you're right there, and I'll admit that has been a refreshing element.

I definitely don't hate it, not yet anyway. I like some episodes/concepts more than others. :) I've noticed people really don't seem to like Amy or Rory period, and I don't have a problem with that - some of their storyines have felt like a bit much, but that's got nothing to do with them. I actually really liked Rory's character development, and Amy's a fun mixture of Rose, Martha, and Donna with of course her own traits. Well, maybe mostly Rose and Donna, and I think any Rose in her was gone by the end of her first round. Which I really should rewatch. I think I'm going to! But no worries, I haven't left the TARDIS quite yet.

[lizer-nibbler.livejournal.com]

I agree with you, I really had a hard time getting into the latest episode. I've felt sort of apathetic about the whole thing for a while now--definitely during the last series as well. At first I just thought I was having a hard time adjusting to the new Doctor, but if I go back now and watch series 5, I find it enjoyable. And Amy did get on my nerves at first, but I like her a lot better now, and I really like Rory as well. But I sort of felt like their story was over with, particularly at the end of last season. It sort of reminds me of Lord of the Rings, like we keep having these false endings where it feels like we're finally letting go, and then SURPRISE a few episodes later there are Amy and Rory again. Apparently something bad is going to happen to them, and that will be the end of that? But why couldn't we just have had closure with them being like "We don't want to do this anymore, goodbye Doctor, we're going to live our lives now and be happy, the end." ??

And I also agree that things have just gotten too complicated. I can't even remember everything that happened last season, or what's real and what isn't anymore. I suppose some of that is my fault for not rewatching, but at the same time I have no desire to. I never felt this confused when RTD was at the helm, and I felt like I cared more about the characters as well. Not that he was perfect! ...but I liked him better.

[bemkah.livejournal.com]

RTD was definitely better with characters. That's something I've reiterated ever since the Moff took over. I think the Moff is better with sci fi than RTD was, but if you can't make us care about the characters, then it's hard to get involved with the sci fi.

I think with the Moff, there are a lot of plot holes and unresolved questions. They didn't really explain very well why suddenly Amy turning into a dalek puppet was a non-issue - I mean, that arm band was to stop the nanites from working, but it wasn't supposed to reverse the process when it's already started.

I think a big issue with me is that I'm not sitting there with a big stupid grin on my face like I was up until David Tennant left. And that's not me being biased towards Ten because I love him - I had a big stupid grin on my face with Nine, too. The show just feels different.

I also don't like how it feels like Eleven is a separate Doctor - in RTDs era, the Doctor acknowledged that he ad a past before Amy, that he had other companions and another life. Maybe this stems from my desire to have Captain Jack and Donna meet Eleven - I think they'd pretty much eat him for breakfast. Heh.