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Teenagers.

Hear me out, okay?

I was thinking about two much loved series that have withstood years of being closed - Buffy and Harry Potter. They overlapped in both fans and when they were released, which I think helped their popularity and the subsequent fandoms grow (as well as LOTR - there was a lot of nerdgasm going around back then). Anyway, there's something I've felt strangely lacking in more recent YA fantasy/action.

Then it hit me. Forgetting about romance being the focus and everything else people often bring up, what makes Buffy and Harry Potter unique is that if you strip it all down, you have a story about kids. Joss Whedon and JKR set out to write about preteens, teens and young adults as they really are.

Let's talk about Buffy and Harry. At times they are misunderstood or underestimated, yet at other times asked to do way more than young people should be. They have to carry the world on their shoulders when they don't want to, but when they do want to or need to, the world fights back. That's how teenagers feel on a regular basis; they ask for it, they don't get it, they don't ask for it, they get it. They complain about it, "it's just hormones." No wonder my music choices were so emo back then.

There are, of course, other characters, and their arcs and the corresponding relationships are very important. Ron and Xander are the Jack Russell Terriers of the group - loyal to a fault, and incidentally, the first ones Harry and Buffy interact with. However, they're also deeply insecure - in their respective trios they are the most "normal," the closest to the audience in terms of fantastical experience. Because they don't know they're characters, this makes them feel upstaged. But they're actually quite crucial for this reason - first, the audience needs a more "average" character they can relate to, who still kicks ass in his own right. While Xander is closer to the movie version of Ron than the book version, they nonetheless both feel like the underdogs in their group, even if their friends would disagree. Again, something a lot of teenagers deal with on a regular basis.

But there's also an interesting parallel to Ron and Harry's friendship in Buffy and Willow. Harry and Buffy are completely new to their surroundings, and the first peers who really "pick them up" are Draco and Cordelia. We learn from Pottermore that Draco wondered if Harry didn't have some dark magic potential in him, which would make him something of an equal; Cordelia outright quizzes Buffy on whether or not she's an equal, a quiz Buffy seems undaunted by. BUT - they're soon put to a test when less socially acceptable redheads turn up. Both Harry and Buffy immediately choose their loyalties, though possibly for different reasons - Harry never really liked Draco to begin with, whereas he saw a bit of Ron in himself as, while not poor, he'd also never been able to treat himself to sweets until recently.  Buffy, meanwhile, possibly sees a bit of Cordelia in herself, and remembers the life she was trying to get away from. Buffy later admits that even before she was a Slayer and moved to Sunnydale, she didn't always feel like her hordes of friends really valued her; so when Buffy realizes Cordelia is basically the sort of girl Buffy would've befriended, or even been, she sees an alternate path in Willow (who seems more like the kind of person Buffy wants to be - a nice, normal girl).

Character and arc parallels aside, what's also important in both series is the strong dynamic between the characters. Both Harry and Buffy consider their friends family, and would do anything for them. That's something teenagers want. Moreover, they interact like teenagers. They talk about boys, annoying siblings and parents and cousins, they argue and gossip and learn things about each other. Sometimes their friendship is tested; sometimes their friendships fall apart; sometimes they find new friendships where they wouldn't expect it. They have crushes and bad dates and bad hair days. Harry has permanent bed hair. They're real with each other. Because they're real.

So even if we discovered Harry and Buffy when we were well past those days, the books and show respectively resonate with us. It's a part of us that we remember and can relate to, and maybe haven't even entirely let go of. And if we did grow up with Buffy and Harry? Even better, because that's probably what got us through it. We could relate to the characters on some level, if not all levels.

And I think that's what's missing from a lot of YA urban fantasy and fiction. It shouldn't just be about werewolves or vampires or whatever else; it should be about growing up. The rawness of teenage years, the vulnerability, the goofyness, the cynicism, the unyielding trust and lingering distrust, the trouble with being abnormal in a so-called normal world.

Because in the end, it's not just the trolls you knocked out or the demons you slayed. It's what you learned, how you grew as a person; it's also the people you stuck out those growing pains with.

Date: 2015-02-15 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragnarok-08.livejournal.com

You are absolutely right here - YA novels should be about growing up, which is rough but has a lot of moments that no one should skim over.

Date: 2015-02-15 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhoda-rants.livejournal.com
I like this theory! Makes so much sense. You see so few teen books set in schools where they actually go to school, and not just fretting about classes, but all the social navigating and mishaps and finding-of-oneself that goes with it. Buffy and HP were ace at that.

Date: 2015-02-15 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sherrilina.livejournal.com
I have some recs for you, based on this post: first, the Vampire Academy series by Richelle Mead (ignore the terrible name). It combines the magical school/hidden magical worldworld-building (with its own messed up politics and racial/class issues) of HP with the snark and vampire-slaying training of BTVS. The main character, Rose, is training to be a guardian against the evil undead type of vampiresvampires, Strigoi (the vampire mythology is based on Romanian lore, which makes for an interesting change of pace). Just as in HP, later books move away from the school environment, but it's a big presence early on. And the book centers on the bond between Rose and her best friend Lissa.

An older urban fantasy series I would recommend is the Mediator series by Meg Cabot (the first 4 of which were originally written under the pseudonym Jenny Carroll). This one really has a Buffy vibe (while still being enjoyable in its own right), but instead of hunting vampires, the protagonist deals with ghosts, who are often a bit unruly. The witty dialogue is as good as the best of Buffy, and again it is in a high school, blending the urban fantasy well.

Date: 2015-02-15 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhoda-rants.livejournal.com
Seconding Vampire Academy--it's awesome!

Date: 2015-02-15 03:32 pm (UTC)
vaysh: Potter? (a_Potter?)
From: [personal profile] vaysh
Fascinating thoughts, and I find myself nodding along. Especially the YA lit should be about growing up. I have a feeling because YA lit has become a genre that is considered a. to have bestselling potential and b. is increasingly read by all ages, authors and publishers want the books to appeal to both YA and fully adult audiences, and thus different themes and plots are introduced.

Date: 2015-02-15 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thegrownupthing.livejournal.com
I really loved this post - I'm glad it's public because I want to share it with someone :)

Date: 2015-02-16 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
I agree. But I think that is the nature of "the machine". We have one high quality show/book (Buffy, Harry, Hunger Games) and "the machine" green lights anyone who has a script/draft with similar plots. Not themes or metaphors or anything deep, but just scratch the surface plots.

And it's soooooooo frustrating because it happens every time. People act surprised that these things are popular, then "the machine" churns out mediocre crap and everyone goes "oh must have been a fluke" and the fans are like "NO you made CRAP! We are not so stupid as to not notice."

It's frustrating and insulting.

Date: 2015-02-16 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com

I love a good story with teens, though a lot of teen protagonists can end up very annoying because they're somehow good at so much at their age. (Not so much Harry as other YA) I generally bear through a lot of it though especially if the voice resonates. I might be edging on 30, but I still feel a lot of those things as keenly as I did then.

Date: 2015-02-16 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] author-by-night.livejournal.com
I'll have to check those out!

I used to read The Princess Diaries and always liked how Meg Cabot wrote teenagers.

Date: 2015-02-16 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] author-by-night.livejournal.com
Ah, interesting, though I'd argue that Harry Potter had a lot of adult fans - but not everyone sees it that way.

Date: 2015-02-19 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metanewsmods.livejournal.com
Hi, could we link this on [livejournal.com profile] metanews? We also post to Dreamwidth and Tumblr under the same name.

Date: 2015-02-19 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] author-by-night.livejournal.com
Sure, go ahead!

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