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author_by_night) wrote2014-06-13 12:29 pm
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La Mort de Livejournal
So I had a conversation the other day about what's really changing (possibly killing, depending on your viewpoint) LJ, and honestly, I feel like everyone has different opinions. (Including me, hence the conversation I had.)
So I decided to create a poll on what's really going on, if anything. You don't have to still really be into LJ to participate - I'd like everyone's opinion.
[Poll #1971640][Poll #1971640]
I have made the results viewable only to me, so dish away. I'm also allowing anonymous comments as you can't participate in polls if you don't have an account, and even if you do I realize you may not want to share your thoughts with everyone, especially if it does relate to drama. I probably will make a follow-up post, but I won't name names, unless you want me to.
So I decided to create a poll on what's really going on, if anything. You don't have to still really be into LJ to participate - I'd like everyone's opinion.
[Poll #1971640][Poll #1971640]
I have made the results viewable only to me, so dish away. I'm also allowing anonymous comments as you can't participate in polls if you don't have an account, and even if you do I realize you may not want to share your thoughts with everyone, especially if it does relate to drama. I probably will make a follow-up post, but I won't name names, unless you want me to.
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A few years ago I tried to get back into the Harry Potter fandom on LJ, by joining one of those huge sorting communities. I loved doing the activities and getting involved again, but I only did this for maybe a year before the drama just became too much for me, and I left. I just don't have time or energy to let my pleasure time be filled with meaningless arguing, you know? I don't use LJ for fandom at all anymore. I'll use tumblr instead (which is not without it's problems, but it's so much easier to avoid).
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Also I love livejournal for its ability to discuss. I invested in a permanent account years ago. I can't imagine really shifting 100% elsewhere.
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This is really where I find joy in Livejournal. It's difficult to follow long text-based conversations on Tumblr, and 140 characters just don't cut it for discussion.
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Who knows? Maybe LJ will have a revival as people realize that there's a social site out there that's designed for in-depth discussion.
Sometimes I think it would help if I just went and looked for new friends on LJ. There's still people here, just not everybody I remember.
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I'm in so many communities here, and keep making new friends and that is why I love LJ and plan never to go.
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On tumblr I just . . . even people I knew from LJ change their name and I can't keep anyone straight and it's more like going to a convention. I have fun, but I don't feel like I'm making a lot of lasting connections and the fandom discussions just are not the same. :/
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THIS!!! All of my original Tumblr friends were friends from LJ, but I don't really know who any of them are, anymore. That is one of the features of Tumblr I hate most...especially since I will often go for months and/or weeks without logging in, so I miss those changes.
It's all very impersonal, for the most part. And there is no good way to catch up on someone's posts even if you could ID them because there are too many, and people often don't post about IRL in the same way because of the public nature of it. So I'm often sad that I don't know what is happening anymore with so many former friends.
Twitter is better in that regard at least, because tweets can be private/f-locked, essentially... /rant
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It was my freshman year of college (fall 2004) that I started really joining communities and interacting with others and adding more people. Since then I've been hooked.
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I keep going mostly because I'm too lazy to set up another place, and am worried about sinking too much time into a more addictive social media site.
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You can't really have these kinds of discussions on any other social media platform. Even most blogging sites, like Wordpress or Blogger, the comments are designed to be left, but you don't really see a lot of interaction between the blogger and commenter. And, of course, Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr seem to promote a post it and move on sort of lifestyle.
I feel like this past year a lot of people have been coming back to LJ, those that know of it's power, and I'm happy to have an active flist again!
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And for other fandom platforms - I have a DW journal which is usually a mirror of my LJ (automatic cross post) and I have FB - which I use for RL stuff and other hobbies. I am on there much more than I am on LJ because I have a wider range of interests to follow on FB.
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So for a long time I used LJ for myself as a diary and occasional publishing platform (not fan fiction, but how-to guides and art projects and stuff like that). And now I've finally started using it to connect with new people and new communities.
I honestly like most of the changes that've been made to LJ in the decade-plus that I've been here, I just wish that they'd been handled in a better manner.
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Today I read my flist every day, comment when I can but post less often on my own LJ(mainly because RL keeps getting in the way and I sort of got out of the habit). I do join in memes, and post in a couple of communities too.
I have a couple of blogger blogs specifically on craft that I use for showing and talking about specific projects, and I use facebook for RL friends and family, but neither fill the hole that would be LJ if it went.
People comment on my blogs, but I have to put a new comment if I want to reply and I never know if they have seen it - most times I hear nothing back.
Facebook is useful for viewing family photos posted by relatives (I don't put pictures of people on my own account) but while it has it's place to moan about the football score or parking tickets, it isn't as satisfying as a full blown conversation here.
And I don't get twitter, or tumblr at all. Both seem a bit pointless to me. #WTF?
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There is still fandom discussion and fic posting on LJ, but it's died off a lot. Being monofandom, I'm back to posting on forums (which I don't like that much) and I now post fic on A03. But LJ is still a big part of my life. I'll be here until it disappears, or I do.
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Whatever the cause, LJ fandom activity has shrunk in every way possible. It's not just there are fewer participants, but the posts and fics are markedly shorter, there are fewer (and shorter) comments to them, and far fewer comment sub-threads. I used to love the rambly chats (remember when commenting would take place over several days?), so for me it's dispiriting.
Anyway, I still socialize on LJ to some degree, but even that has died down a lot. I've gotta admit I'm side-eyeing my paid account.
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I left because I'm a WOC and it was really hard to find other fen of color on LJ. We had one community that wasn't very active and it covered all sci-fi media, not just one. I would go through my f-list and it was very white. A lot of the critical thought or discussion would completely ignore race. People would very much stay within their little fandom circles, all parroting the same opinions, and I got tired of it. It felt like a circle-jerk, excuse my language.
At least on Tumblr it feels more democratized. My dash is filled with so much amazing commentary on race and socioeconomic status and gender and so much more. I see posts I would have never seen because someone reblogged it. Even if I follow someone, get to see stuff they reblogged from the people they follow and so on. I'm exposed to so many more opinions and viewpoints than I ever was on LJ.
I should add too that Tumblr has plenty of extensions that make being in fandom a lot easier. I don't have to worry about someone posting something triggering in a community I follow like I do on LJ because my Tumblr Savior can block anything with my trigger words on it. There is one community I had to stop following on LJ because one user always posted stories with graphic depictions of sexual assault. So part of me also left LJ for my own mental health.
I sort of think of it like this (and it might upset people). LJ is sort of like high school. There are cliques and popular people and people tend to stay with other people who validate their opinions or have similar views. Tumblr is like college where you are thrown into situations with people who have all kind of viewpoints and nobody cares if you are popular, nobody knows how many friends you have, and you learn so much more about the world.
But again, this is just my personal experience and how I feel about it. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings because I did have good times on LJ, I loved my time here, but I never felt like I truly belonged.
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I feel bad that while I've been saying I hate Facebook, for the past few years I've gotten used to it. I have to admit the interface is nice, easier to use than LJ and Twitter. Everyone seems to be on Facebook these days. On LJ the only updates I usually see are from a vintage ads community. I should probably take that off my reading list.
When I log into Livejournal, when used to Facebook, I have to find myself remembering that I can't "like" posts. I won't be getting a red update about someone tagging me on LJ.
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I want to be here as much as I used to be, I really, really do, but I'm struggling to manage my time now my offline life is continually changing in an ever positive way, and I'm becoming more and more busy.
I miss LJ and the people here so much. I miss my friends and I miss reading and writing. I'm really hoping to be able to start to manage my time better like I used to be able to do, because I want to have both my busy offline life and my online life too.
I guess the adjustment will just take time, unfortunately. But ultimately, I'm never going to go anywhere! I won't leave LJ, I'm just busy at the moment while my life sorts itself out. Eventually I want my LJ to be as active as it was! Maybe not participating in 50 fests a year anymore, but a few at least, and posting regularly!
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I like AO3 for archival purposes but I don't think of myself as using it the way I use LJ, following fests and individuals. My Tumblr, Twitter, and FB are all not-fannish (or at least not strictly HP like my LJ is) though FB especially I do have friends who I know from fandom but we don't get into the nitty gritty of writing or slash or whatever there.
The reason I do stay here (as opposed to Tumblr especially) is for the people. Friends, discussions, real human interaction. I could just write and throw my fic into the wind but I like the social aspect.
As for LJ drama, well, I've certainly had my fair share but I've (mostly) learned that one doesn't have to attend every argument they are invited to. ;)
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I have a Tumblr, but I prefer it for visual imagery, and think it's awkward as anything for discussion. I don't post or reblog fannish material -- I use it for other things -- though I do follow some fannish Tumblrs.
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The other thing that I don't think was mentioned in the poll but which does have an impact is the device on which I use the internet these days, i.e. my smart phone. I find the LJ/DW site clunky to use on my phone so I don't. I only come on these sites when I'm on my cranky old laptop. The rest of the time I'm on AO3 and Tumblr, both of which work well on my phone.
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Social platforms are always going to be largely fuelled by the people on them, but none of today's offer the opportunity for filtered and detailed discussion that LJ did back in the day.
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Social capital as a sorting factor for like the Recent Entries page works well for the Russian community as they're pretty active. The first 10000 people in the ratings list all have a social capital number greater than 10, even more have it. So the stock from which to pick for preparing such a site is very large.
But in the English speaking community, it's only between 1000 and 1500 people. Even if there are 20000 being still active, you only get to know what a very small amount does.
And I think that's a big problem.
(You can do lots of efforts in using the Home-site and using Non-cyrillic - for the "Popular Entries"-feature - as well as Cyrillic rating - for the "Recent Entries"-page -, but that requires you have a lot of spare time and a lot of boredom.)